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And no evidence for how the material came into being out of nothing, how that created the big bang, how life came into being in primordial goo, or macro evolution. Just faith that it happened. Sounds like a religion to me.
Why not AR? There is just as much eveidence of God existing as their is the God doesn't,,, we'll go the 'friend' route, you can stay with the little dishes and growing cultures of mold. I hear that Stacki mold is very interesting.
I did, I said he did and you say he doesn't..... I'll wait for you to pull out the 'scientific study' saying God doesn't exist,,,,, which there isn't one or else wing nout like you would be pasting the link on every post
midleft-no reason in the world to call people idiots or inbreds because of their beliefs, except for your own hate filled mind. Religion and prayer has helped many people, being Agnostic I cannot say because there was any 'God' who answered their prayers, but because in a way those people might have helped themselves because they believed. It is 'self help' some people find their belief a great comfort, and if it helps them fantastic! it doesn't mean I believe, but I believe they believe. And in the end..who knows, they may be right! Besides harming others with any belief, why do you care what someone believes in? would you call a child who believes in Santa a moron? an inbred idiot?
I won't devalue someones prayer belief just as I wouldn't want someone to devalue my belief in luck, hope etc...
but it has to remain personal, you cannot harm other as these parents harmed their child by not providing her with medical attention. Very selfish.
midleft-I never said harm couldn't come to people who believe in 'Gods',Billions upon billions of times it has, I said a persons belief should NOT cause others harm. And if people use religion for greed, political gain, power, justification for violence,etc.. then yes that is selfish!!!!
so you are off a fence,you're off the fense, I guess that means you are a very exciting person!! LOL, right! no need to say which side you are standing on, but how about proving without a doubt that there is no God! I'm not saying there is...but well you know, just as you think you know Agnostics are boring, I have to admit people like you that are so hate filled aren't boring, not exciting either..I don't have a perfect word for people that say and believe in some of the things you do.
These people like EVERYONE else on Earth need to be responsible for their actions.
Some times the answer is NO to prayers, and that's why God gave us a brain to think of the ways to help ourselves.
The Parents meant no harm to their child, but they need some consequences for their actions.
To each his own.
Some times there are some things we just don't need evidence to prove!
I don't condemn you for not believing, please don't condemn me because i believe!
Its all a giant pot of steaming liquid crap
Then there's you?
midleft
And no evidence for how the material came into being out of nothing, how that created the big bang, how life came into being in primordial goo, or macro evolution. Just faith that it happened. Sounds like a religion to me.
Then can we just agree to quit filling in the gaps with imaginary friends until such time we have discovered evidence of such a being(s)?
Is that too much to ask?
Why not AR? There is just as much eveidence of God existing as their is the God doesn't,,, we'll go the 'friend' route, you can stay with the little dishes and growing cultures of mold. I hear that Stacki mold is very interesting.
"There is just as much eveidence of God existing as their is the God doesn't"
There is?
Why don't you present some?
AR the point is there is no evidence either for or against his existence, just faith. (no evidence for either amounts to the same)
Right, just like the flying spaghetti monster and unicorns.
"AR the point is there is no evidence either for or against his existence, just faith."
The point was there is evidence that justifies belief in things like referring to a transcendent deity in the masculine form.
Like I said before, can we just stop filling in the gaps until we actually have evidence to justify qualifications and quantifications?
I did, I said he did and you say he doesn't..... I'll wait for you to pull out the 'scientific study' saying God doesn't exist,,,,, which there isn't one or else wing nout like you would be pasting the link on every post
"There is just as much eveidence of God existing as their is the God doesn't"
Which is none.
yes
midleft-no reason in the world to call people idiots or inbreds because of their beliefs, except for your own hate filled mind. Religion and prayer has helped many people, being Agnostic I cannot say because there was any 'God' who answered their prayers, but because in a way those people might have helped themselves because they believed. It is 'self help' some people find their belief a great comfort, and if it helps them fantastic! it doesn't mean I believe, but I believe they believe. And in the end..who knows, they may be right! Besides harming others with any belief, why do you care what someone believes in? would you call a child who believes in Santa a moron? an inbred idiot?
I won't devalue someones prayer belief just as I wouldn't want someone to devalue my belief in luck, hope etc...
but it has to remain personal, you cannot harm other as these parents harmed their child by not providing her with medical attention. Very selfish.
agnostics are boring? like in bed?
sometimes it takes faith to move certain 'mountains' I guess
midleft-I never said harm couldn't come to people who believe in 'Gods',Billions upon billions of times it has, I said a persons belief should NOT cause others harm. And if people use religion for greed, political gain, power, justification for violence,etc.. then yes that is selfish!!!!
so you are off a fence,you're off the fense, I guess that means you are a very exciting person!! LOL, right! no need to say which side you are standing on, but how about proving without a doubt that there is no God! I'm not saying there is...but well you know, just as you think you know Agnostics are boring, I have to admit people like you that are so hate filled aren't boring, not exciting either..I don't have a perfect word for people that say and believe in some of the things you do.
These people like EVERYONE else on Earth need to be responsible for their actions.
not2needy: Where in the Bible does it say that sometimes the answer is no? It says just the opposite, over and over again.
Matthew 7:8
For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
Matthew 21:22
And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive.
Mark 11:24
Therefore I say to you, all things for which you pray and ask, believe that you have received them, and they will be granted you.
Luke 11:10
For everyone who asks, receives; and he who seeks, finds; and to him who knocks, it will be opened.
John 16:24
Until now you have asked for nothing in My name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be made full.
you are right, 'do unto others' is complete mythology
the older you get the less 'sure' you'll get
the 'surety of youth' indeed
*sigh*
''The bible, koran, and anything written before modern knowledge is complete mythology.''
A friend tells me that certain mathematic formulas were invented BCE. like around the time of the Buddha
A ways before 'modern knowledge'
you may want to be more careful in your writing
but doubtless you just need a little seasoning
wisdom may not come with age, but perspective usually does